what Ld does:
#0:0
living_name_m ([])
name_living_m ([])

what DR does:
uptime "Wed Jul 19 09:30:41 2006"
starttime 1153315841
uplimit 0

what ld -default- does:

#1:0
uptime "Tue Jul 18 10:02:29 2006"
starttime 1153231349
uplimit 0
